hrm.. well, thats sort of what I was saying.. Theres LOTS of things to read and very few FACTS. It is easy to write something, and not so easy to back it up.
As far as the difference in emergence time, that should be very easy to prove. So I am not sure why it hasnt been. I am completely confused WHY many of these things haven't been legitimately put to the TEST to see if there is even a hint of truth to them.. They design experiments and tests that.. at least to my untrained eye look like they were MEANT to fail.. When someone like myself with limited intelligence can look at these tests and see IMMEDIATELY the faults in them.. then why cant these folks with PHD's by their names see those faults?
From what i have read, beeks usually start to lose hives to Varroa late in the second year, with growing losses going into the third year.. so.. why design an experiment that lasts a couple of months, AND treat the bees to kill the mites DURING those experiments? Why would you put small cell foundation into a large cell hive and expect the bees on ONE frame to suddenly start resisting mites? Or for tham matter why would you even expect them to draw that frame out with small cells? Blahhh.. Most of the research data I have read I never finished reading.. its that mind block wall that comes up when I read the METHODS used and see that they are already doomed. I can read what they did, see the faults and guess the results before I see them. So far batting one hundred.
Resistance.. from what I have gathered from several sites and even vids, is that all bees have a certain resistance, or Hygienic behavior, but most no longer show it, or use it. In order to bring that out, it takes pushing them to the breaking point, sometimes as long as two years before they reach that point of intolerance, that their resistance begins to kick in..
OK....
This makes a certain amount of sense to me. Perhaps in the past bees had some other pst they had to deal with? those hygienic traits are there buried in the past. Kind of like watching a young boy grow into a teenager and suddenly one day, he SEES GIRLS!
However, the fact that they claim this works ONLY on small cell bees doesn't make any sense to me, and more or less ruins any further discussion. Once my mind raises the wall of disbelief, there is nothing else to be said that I am willing to give credit to.
So why discuss it? Because I want at least some of it to be true, and there is always hope that someone will step up and say HEY look at this research! These guys and gals did a GREAT job with their tests... and THIS is what they found!
I will be paying attention this year to emergence times. I cant imagine that it would be greatly difficult to put a piece of drawn comb into a brood nest, and pull that brood comb.. ?? two hours later? Check for eggs, put it above an excluder and begin the countdown. Emergence time would have a variable of two hours. This could easily be done in spring, summer and fall to add temps, humidity etc to the mix.
I am not pro OR con. While I am not a disciple, I would like to know as much as possible. Things like Nocturnal eggs raise that wall of disbelief, PHD or not. I can't see the explanation for it? I can sort of see where pushing a beehive to its limit would make a trait that is dormant rise to the surface. I suspect that the egg will hatch when its ready, be it day or night. Kind of like that pot of water your watching. It WILL boil when its ready, watching or not.
"Perhaps you have reviewed each of these folks "nocturnal" data sheet to confirm their conclusion?" heheh, sorry Tec, couldn't help myself...
Emergence time is easy to check. TOO easy to lie about. Other claims that are less believable??? I would ask.. WHY lie about them? What would be the point?
So lets say I tell you ALL;
" Put blue paint UNDER the bottom board of your hive will repel ALL varroa within two years!"
Isn't it rather apparent that in two years your all going to know I was full of POO clear up to my eyebrows?
Yeah, I could say you used the wrong shade of blue, or that you used flat paint instead of high gloss, but it is still too easy to test and prove that I am an idiot.
I think it has more to do with region, climate and genetics than outright lies. What works for MB, Dee, and the others who claim success, is because ALL of the underlying circumstances added together worked, rather than any single thing they did. I am still waiting for someone to put all of those little pieces together and say.. AHAA!
Besides, its SNOWING like mad right now, and I AM going stir crazy. I have some interest in this so its a good discussion to see what yall believe and don't.