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Offline Lburou

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Swarm the size of a peach.
« on: May 03, 2016, 10:01:18 pm »
Not groundbreaking, but fun, fun, fun!

My son noticed a swarm in the air over our apiary near sunset today.  It landed on a chittamwood tree 20 feet from my hives and about 10 feet up.  I located an empty brood frame and taped it to a ten foot pole, then put it in contact with the swarm, like this:



A hundred bees moved onto the frame.  I used the frame to scoop a few bees onto the frame because it was getting dark and I wanted to locate the queen.  After contacting the cluster and checking for the queen a couple times, she finally moved onto the frame where I grabbed her then put her in a queen cage, like this:



At sunset, when the bees were no longer flying, this is how they looked:





A lot of fuss for that many bees, but you have to keep those perishable bee skills sharp.  ;)




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Re: Swarm the size of a peach.
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2016, 10:04:12 pm »
Pretty cool thinking! :)
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Re: Swarm the size of a peach.
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2016, 11:37:37 pm »
Nice Lee! And you know what?... in my book a peach size cluster can make a fabulous hive by the end of the summer, I seen that happen in my yard. Good Goin'
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Re: Swarm the size of a peach.
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2016, 07:17:00 am »
Dose the queen look to be a virgin. If it is a cast swarm, did you happen to catch the prime swarm?
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Re: Swarm the size of a peach.
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2016, 07:45:52 am »
 Great catch, most would have let one that size go, and a good way to do it.

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Re: Swarm the size of a peach.
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2016, 08:53:09 am »
Smart on your feet too I see. Well done!
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Re: Swarm the size of a peach.
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2016, 09:50:34 am »
Thanks for the encouragement everybody, it is fun!  :)

Neil, the challenge is to corral the queen, the remaining bees will follow.  So, the brood comb is a strong lure for the queen.  Once she marches onto the brood frame, it is time for a queen clip.

This swarm is too small to commit many resources Jen,  too much robbing pressure here.  My mentor from 1976 was very negative about feral swarms because of their unknown medical history, that stuck with me.  I always segregate swarm bees unless they are mine.

Apis, I get little swarms like this until fall, I've read that some edumicated people consider this habit an AHB trait.  For that reason, I do not let these queens live.  I doubt it is a prime swarm, but these bees do attend to the queen -she looks svelte but you never know if she is mated or not.  She was not nervous or running on the brood frame like a virgin.   If there was a prime swarm, I didn't see it.  None of my 15 hives have/had queen cells as of four days ago, checkerboarding is working for me.

Kebe, these tiny swarms have frequently landed on my mating NUCs or queen castles and try to take over -Four times that I have actually observed, in four years here in North Texas.

Perry, I keep various pole lengths on hand for occasions like this.  I like this procedure for very high swarms when I can't shake the branch.  I usually put a bed sheet on the ground, directly under the  swarm and either shake the limb or put the brood frame up there...Queens usually go right for the brood comb if you give them a chance.    Last week, I was bringing a brood frame down for a queen search and two golf ball sized puffs of bees were dislodged from their swarm 20 feet up.  They fell to the ground, the queen was in one of them and that swarm is in a hive & going gangbusters now at another location.

Don't you just love Spring time?   :)
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Re: Swarm the size of a peach.
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2016, 09:58:00 am »
Lee,

I'll be looking forward to how this little swarm does later in the season.
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Re: Swarm the size of a peach.
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2016, 08:22:13 am »
Nice Lee, love the frame pole idea. :yes:

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Re: Swarm the size of a peach.
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2016, 10:01:56 am »
Hey gang!    :-[

My 27 years in the Military let me write "AFB" instead of "AHB" in a post above...AFB is an abbreviation of Air Force Base, so my eye didn't notice it until today, I meant to write AHB for Africanized Honey Bees -corrected now in that answer to Apis. Why is that important? Because I don't want to harbor AHB genes genes in my apiary if I can help it!  AHB throw usurping swarms, I think this was one of them.

Neil, I pinched the queen and shook the bees out away from my hives. 

Kebe, keeping these genes out of my apiary is the reason I would expend so much effort on bees I won't keep.  I hope that makes sense now.   :yes:

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Re: Swarm the size of a peach.
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2016, 06:57:55 pm »
Good catch! Nuc box would be a perfect home for them to grow.