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Hi from Yarmouth NS
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:51:48 pm »
 Hi All. First year beekeeper here. Got 2 nucs from Perry Brandt in June. Currently trying to do a trapout with a late swarm and it's one step forward and two steps back. Frustrating, but I'm trying to stay positive; it's a learning experience. I have a few trapout questions: 1) I used a combo of Great Stuff and latex caulking -- should I have used silicone? 2) The last time I checked the nuc box the bees had built 2 queen cells, that was 2 days ago. I came home from work today and the bees had made new entrances into the original hive and had given up on the nuc. Autumn is approaching fast and I feel like I'm running out of time. I did a repair with duct tape. Are the queens cells they built still ok, or do I need to put a new frame of eggs? Keep in mind I am working about 25 feet up in the air, but in a location where I can keep an eye on things (my house  ;))

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Re: Hi from Yarmouth NS
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2014, 10:02:10 pm »
Hi Springtide, we'll enjoy hearing your bee stories  :)
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Re: Hi from Yarmouth NS
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2014, 10:03:14 pm »
They will remove latex and expanding foam. Silicone is the only way to go. Check your queen cells after 3 or more frames are covered with bees. If they are still there, they should be fine.

Being in N. S. this time of year, I would remove the nuc and replace it with my weakest queenrite hive. The trapped bees will take up with it and boost it for the winter.

Welcome to the forum. You can be one more from N. S. to help us keep Perry straight.   :laugh:

If you haven't seen this thread, you may want to spend some time reading it and it's links.
http://www.worldwidebeekeeping.com/forum/index.php/topic,29.0.html
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Re: Hi from Yarmouth NS
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2014, 10:25:49 pm »
Well, shoot.  :sad: Off to buy silicone tomorrow.

Hmm, I live in a town with a really restrictive beekeeping bylaw, but at least they allow beekeeping now, not sure if I can get away with replacing the nuc with a weak queenright hive in my front yard. I was planning to do a newspaper combine as Perry suggested to me (and yet another new thing for me to learn). What do you think?

As for keeping Perry straight, it's the other way round  ;D he's the one who told me about you fine folks.  :laugh:

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Re: Hi from Yarmouth NS
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2014, 10:36:12 pm »
The newspaper combine will likely work, but is riskier and harder to do than just letting them take up with the hive in the beginning. I wouldn't think it would be a problem with the city if they were told it is temporary, just to remove a colony from your house.
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Re: Hi from Yarmouth NS
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2014, 11:09:50 pm »
welcome to the forum springtide!

iddee is the master at trapouts, good luck to you, keep us posted!

far as perry.....well...... :D

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Re: Hi from Yarmouth NS
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2014, 05:14:19 am »
 Welcome Springtide to the forum, sure you will find your answers here.

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Re: Hi from Yarmouth NS
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2014, 07:36:28 am »
Just to let some of you folks know, Springtide was almost soley responsible for getting beekeeping allowed in Yarmouth. She and another beek presented to Town Council and got the ban lifted. Her persistance is to be admired.
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Re: Hi from Yarmouth NS
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2014, 10:40:06 am »
wow, that's really, really cool!!!.........
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Re: Hi from Yarmouth NS
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2014, 03:54:49 pm »
welcome to the forum.
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Re: Hi from Yarmouth NS
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2014, 06:37:32 pm »
Welcome to the form. It gets to a time of year when it is better to leave the feral bees till spring and remove them then with a trap.
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Re: Hi from Yarmouth NS
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2014, 09:43:33 pm »
Hi !!!!
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Re: Hi from Yarmouth NS
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2014, 03:18:05 am »
Greetings to you Springtide.  Glad to have you with us.

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Re: Hi from Yarmouth NS
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2014, 04:30:36 pm »

Thank you for all the welcomes! And Perry, aww shucks  :-[

Here's a picture of what I'm up against:



It's my tenant's kitchen window, and I WAS planning on getting the roof redone this fall, may have to get just the back done and get the front done next spring, if I decide to go with Apisbees suggestion (thanks btw, I hadn't even thought of that :) ) It's lath and plaster inside so a bit tricky to do a cutout.

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Re: Hi from Yarmouth NS
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2014, 06:36:37 pm »
great picture!

ooohhh, ladder.......tall ladder.....hmmm.......i like being close to the ground!........... :D  good luck!!!
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Re: Hi from Yarmouth NS
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2014, 07:55:29 pm »
According to Jack, river, you are close to the ground! Too close!  :D
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Re: Hi from Yarmouth NS
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2014, 08:34:04 pm »
ok perry you gonna start picking on me now? cuz i will get jack to help me out......... :D

hmmm, err, maybe i should rethink that?.......... :D
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Re: Hi from Yarmouth NS
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2014, 07:56:56 am »
welcome springtide. you'll learn a lot here. they are always helping.

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Re: Hi from Yarmouth NS
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2014, 02:41:17 pm »
If your redoing the roof anyway cut them out at that time from the top and patch and when the new roof goes on no one will be able to tell.
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Re: Hi from Yarmouth NS
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2014, 04:14:16 pm »
An update: the trapout only worked to a certain extent. The problem was the bees kept getting back in the house, so the trapout kept failing repeatedly. Did a newspaper combine with the first batch, I'll post pics in a day or two. I still have another box up there that's full of bees, but they won't raise a mated queen this time of year. (The first trapout raised a queen but something must have happened on one of her mating flights.) Still have the original queen in the wall, my roofing contractor is supposed to be here next week (but you know how contractors are). I'm wondering if there's any way to save her, and where she can be kept to overwinter. Climate wise, I'm in Nova Scotia, about a 3 hour drive from Perry Brandt. (Garden zone 6b, but close to the ocean, so damp.)